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	<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 23:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Lifting Keel Yacht For Sale by John Price-Yachts for Sale</title>
		<link>http://www.lifestylesailingblog.com/safety/lifting-keel-yacht-for-sale/#comment-817</link>
		<dc:creator>John Price-Yachts for Sale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a nice piece of craft. I love the boat, its awesome. Thanks for posting! If you have the chance feel free to visit me back on my site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a nice piece of craft. I love the boat, its awesome. Thanks for posting! If you have the chance feel free to visit me back on my site.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lifting Keel Yacht For Sale by John Robinson</title>
		<link>http://www.lifestylesailingblog.com/safety/lifting-keel-yacht-for-sale/#comment-816</link>
		<dc:creator>John Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 07:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.lifestylesailingblog.com/safety/lifting-keel-yacht-for-sale/#comment-816</guid>
		<description>Hi Chris,
The keel when it goes up and down does not touch the sides. I thought it would and welded stainless steel strips on both the keel and the sides but they have never been used. The 75mm stainless pin it swings on is strong enough on its own. Once down it locks into a wedge shaped fitting so it cannot move. When the keel is down you can get into it from the top.Its narrow and if the boat is in the water you are in nearly about a metre of water. The only parts of Crusoe that you cannot get at if you need to on the inside or outside is behind the fridge and the freezer and they have a 50 mm gap at the back so you can see, and I took extra special care in this area. This is the second large steel boat that I have built, the first was launched in 1984. The new owners still have her and she has spent most of the last 15 years in Asia with no major problems. Crusoe has a lot of stainless steel used in her ie;The knuckle, toerail etc, all hatches and windows are mounted on stainless. This cuts down maintenance to a minimum. We have just taken her out of the water for an antifoul and checkup. The annodes are the original after 10 years! But I think they finally do need replacing. This year I have put in a Mastervolt true sine wave inverter charger and all new nav instruments. Crusoes hull will still be around in a 100 years with normal maintenance. I wonder how many of the latest fibreglass ones will be. At this stage nobody has made us an offer that we cannot refuse so we are off to Fiji in July subject to weather. Our 40 year old son is getting married there in September and we should return in November.

Regards  John Robinson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chris,<br />
The keel when it goes up and down does not touch the sides. I thought it would and welded stainless steel strips on both the keel and the sides but they have never been used. The 75mm stainless pin it swings on is strong enough on its own. Once down it locks into a wedge shaped fitting so it cannot move. When the keel is down you can get into it from the top.Its narrow and if the boat is in the water you are in nearly about a metre of water. The only parts of Crusoe that you cannot get at if you need to on the inside or outside is behind the fridge and the freezer and they have a 50 mm gap at the back so you can see, and I took extra special care in this area. This is the second large steel boat that I have built, the first was launched in 1984. The new owners still have her and she has spent most of the last 15 years in Asia with no major problems. Crusoe has a lot of stainless steel used in her ie;The knuckle, toerail etc, all hatches and windows are mounted on stainless. This cuts down maintenance to a minimum. We have just taken her out of the water for an antifoul and checkup. The annodes are the original after 10 years! But I think they finally do need replacing. This year I have put in a Mastervolt true sine wave inverter charger and all new nav instruments. Crusoes hull will still be around in a 100 years with normal maintenance. I wonder how many of the latest fibreglass ones will be. At this stage nobody has made us an offer that we cannot refuse so we are off to Fiji in July subject to weather. Our 40 year old son is getting married there in September and we should return in November.</p>
<p>Regards  John Robinson</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lifting Keel Yacht For Sale by Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.lifestylesailingblog.com/safety/lifting-keel-yacht-for-sale/#comment-815</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 04:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.lifestylesailingblog.com/safety/lifting-keel-yacht-for-sale/#comment-815</guid>
		<description>I'm very interested in Crusoe and an keen to view, but I'm currently working long hours in the process of selling my business, hopefully if/when that goes through I'll have both the time and the money, at which point I'll be in touch to arrange a viewing.

Meanwhile, one thing concerns me... as you rightly mention, maintenance is key to the longevity of a boat, in particular with steel maintaining a waterproof paint layer is crucial because once rust sets in things can go downhill quickly.

I'm concerned that the keel casing could be a weak point in this respect, out of sight, hard to access, full of salt water and air sloshing about, plus very prone to the paint coatings being scraped off when raising/lowering the keel.

Could you possibly describe how these issues are addressed both in terms of design/construction and maintenance/inspection access?

Best wishes,
Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m very interested in Crusoe and an keen to view, but I&#8217;m currently working long hours in the process of selling my business, hopefully if/when that goes through I&#8217;ll have both the time and the money, at which point I&#8217;ll be in touch to arrange a viewing.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, one thing concerns me&#8230; as you rightly mention, maintenance is key to the longevity of a boat, in particular with steel maintaining a waterproof paint layer is crucial because once rust sets in things can go downhill quickly.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m concerned that the keel casing could be a weak point in this respect, out of sight, hard to access, full of salt water and air sloshing about, plus very prone to the paint coatings being scraped off when raising/lowering the keel.</p>
<p>Could you possibly describe how these issues are addressed both in terms of design/construction and maintenance/inspection access?</p>
<p>Best wishes,<br />
Chris</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lifting Keel Yacht For Sale by John</title>
		<link>http://www.lifestylesailingblog.com/safety/lifting-keel-yacht-for-sale/#comment-812</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 19:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.lifestylesailingblog.com/safety/lifting-keel-yacht-for-sale/#comment-812</guid>
		<description>Crusoe's hull was built under the supervision of Marine and Industrial a division of Ministry of Transport - a government department.

In about 1998 MIM was sold to SGS and and since then the Safe Ship Management system has been in place so the old classification system is no longer used.

As noted the hull was built and passed for class 8 at the time. I then found out to continue finishing her to that classification you would need to have a registered engineer in the engine room.

Lifelines would have to 1m high etc. so  I finished her to Class 5, which if I remember correctly, was for an offshore charter yacht anywhere around NZ. However she has never been in charter.

I did put in the lifelines at 800mm not the normal 600mm high which does give you added safety at sea.

If someone wanted to put her in charter in NZ they would have to enter into the Safe Management System and I can't imagine that being a problem. The propeller shaft is certified, for example.

The naval architect who passed the plans for MIM  was a Mr Ian Lancaster who was surveyor of ships for them he now works for Maritime NZ.

I trust this answers your question.
Regards John Robinson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crusoe&#8217;s hull was built under the supervision of Marine and Industrial a division of Ministry of Transport - a government department.</p>
<p>In about 1998 MIM was sold to SGS and and since then the Safe Ship Management system has been in place so the old classification system is no longer used.</p>
<p>As noted the hull was built and passed for class 8 at the time. I then found out to continue finishing her to that classification you would need to have a registered engineer in the engine room.</p>
<p>Lifelines would have to 1m high etc. so  I finished her to Class 5, which if I remember correctly, was for an offshore charter yacht anywhere around NZ. However she has never been in charter.</p>
<p>I did put in the lifelines at 800mm not the normal 600mm high which does give you added safety at sea.</p>
<p>If someone wanted to put her in charter in NZ they would have to enter into the Safe Management System and I can&#8217;t imagine that being a problem. The propeller shaft is certified, for example.</p>
<p>The naval architect who passed the plans for MIM  was a Mr Ian Lancaster who was surveyor of ships for them he now works for Maritime NZ.</p>
<p>I trust this answers your question.<br />
Regards John Robinson</p>
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		<title>Comment on What is the secret to safe sailing in heavy weather? by 48 Blogs that Offer Tips on Boating Safety &#124; BoatInsurance.org</title>
		<link>http://www.lifestylesailingblog.com/safety/heavy-weather-sailing/#comment-811</link>
		<dc:creator>48 Blogs that Offer Tips on Boating Safety &#124; BoatInsurance.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 14:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Lifting Keel Yacht For Sale by John</title>
		<link>http://www.lifestylesailingblog.com/safety/lifting-keel-yacht-for-sale/#comment-810</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 01:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.lifestylesailingblog.com/safety/lifting-keel-yacht-for-sale/#comment-810</guid>
		<description>NZ Ships Standards Category 8. Have tried to find the source of the documentation to see what this means without success. Can anyone help ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NZ Ships Standards Category 8. Have tried to find the source of the documentation to see what this means without success. Can anyone help ?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lifting Keel Yacht For Sale by Krzysiu</title>
		<link>http://www.lifestylesailingblog.com/safety/lifting-keel-yacht-for-sale/#comment-809</link>
		<dc:creator>Krzysiu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 11:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.lifestylesailingblog.com/safety/lifting-keel-yacht-for-sale/#comment-809</guid>
		<description>Great article with a lot of good quality pictures. I like it:)
Did You now, that the &lt;a href="http://anglopolish.com/index.php/archive/8-polish-cars/168-the-fastest-catamaran-in-the-world" rel="nofollow"&gt;fastest catamaran&lt;/a&gt; is in Poland ? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article with a lot of good quality pictures. I like it:)<br />
Did You now, that the <a href="http://anglopolish.com/index.php/archive/8-polish-cars/168-the-fastest-catamaran-in-the-world" rel="nofollow">fastest catamaran</a> is in Poland ? <img src='http://www.lifestylesailingblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>Comment on Lifting Keel Yacht For Sale by Mark Balenovic</title>
		<link>http://www.lifestylesailingblog.com/safety/lifting-keel-yacht-for-sale/#comment-808</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Balenovic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 03:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.lifestylesailingblog.com/safety/lifting-keel-yacht-for-sale/#comment-808</guid>
		<description>Crusoe remains one of the best offers on the cruising market today, in my not-so-humble opinion.  You have to cross deep oceans to get to shallow cruising grounds, and so we need Crusoe.  You look at the cruising boat market today, and you find lift keel yachts for US 750k and up, or popular cruisers with a "shallow draft keel" option of 6 or 7 feet draught, not suitable for the Bahamas or the Chesapeake, or any lagoon you may find.  The only other intelligent yacht that I found in the last year of research was "Salt", a 46' ketch from USA, but this boat is a cold-molded and balsa cored hull.  Crusoe does not have those structural nightmares.  I hope I can snag this boat before my enthusiastic comments encourage another buyer to act.  I've been looking for a boat for over 40 years now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crusoe remains one of the best offers on the cruising market today, in my not-so-humble opinion.  You have to cross deep oceans to get to shallow cruising grounds, and so we need Crusoe.  You look at the cruising boat market today, and you find lift keel yachts for US 750k and up, or popular cruisers with a &#8220;shallow draft keel&#8221; option of 6 or 7 feet draught, not suitable for the Bahamas or the Chesapeake, or any lagoon you may find.  The only other intelligent yacht that I found in the last year of research was &#8220;Salt&#8221;, a 46&#8242; ketch from USA, but this boat is a cold-molded and balsa cored hull.  Crusoe does not have those structural nightmares.  I hope I can snag this boat before my enthusiastic comments encourage another buyer to act.  I&#8217;ve been looking for a boat for over 40 years now.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why does safety take practice? by John</title>
		<link>http://www.lifestylesailingblog.com/safety/why-does-safety-take-practice/#comment-538</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Darce for your questions. Te read more of my sailing adventures, you can visit this link; http://www.lifestylesailingblog.com/johns-bio/ 

Regarding boat heaters, the first question I have is how much time will you spend on the boat?
If it it is only weekends then you can do what most people do and that is not go sailing in the winter except on sunny days. However if you plan to spend extended time on the boat, then you will find you appreciate the heater for many months of the year, as it is always cool on the water (except in the tropics).
When I sailed into BC, Canada from the tropics in early October, the first thing I did was find a $50 tiny woodburner stove and installed it into the boat. It only lasted about a year, but I used it every day. I then replaced it with one I built with the help of a friend with a welder, which lasted much longer.
You can often survive sailing without a heater (put on more clothes), but the delight of coming below into a warm boat when it is cold outside is one of sailing greatest pleasures, especially as it also means a dry boat to boot.

If you have a diesel engine, then a diesel heater is the most practical way to go and you can probably buy a good one second hand. Diesel heaters last.
Wood fired heaters are an option, but you do have to always collect pine cones, drift wood (which is tough on the fire box as the salt eats the steel) or coal. While  collecting can be fun, storage of sacks of firewood is an issue. But it worked for me.
Because propane makes water, as you said, you need to have a flue. In fact what ever heating system you use, you need a chimney to take the water out of the boat. My chimney also could be removed and replaced with a very good bung for sailing across oceans.
Electricity is nice when in a marina, but that is all it is good for.

Keep me posted how you get on.
Fair winds John


To answer your questions about heaters; the best solution is a diesel heater assuming you have a diesel engine and already have diesel onboard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Darce for your questions. Te read more of my sailing adventures, you can visit this link; <a href="http://www.lifestylesailingblog.com/johns-bio/" rel="nofollow">http://www.lifestylesailingblog.com/johns-bio/</a> </p>
<p>Regarding boat heaters, the first question I have is how much time will you spend on the boat?<br />
If it it is only weekends then you can do what most people do and that is not go sailing in the winter except on sunny days. However if you plan to spend extended time on the boat, then you will find you appreciate the heater for many months of the year, as it is always cool on the water (except in the tropics).<br />
When I sailed into BC, Canada from the tropics in early October, the first thing I did was find a $50 tiny woodburner stove and installed it into the boat. It only lasted about a year, but I used it every day. I then replaced it with one I built with the help of a friend with a welder, which lasted much longer.<br />
You can often survive sailing without a heater (put on more clothes), but the delight of coming below into a warm boat when it is cold outside is one of sailing greatest pleasures, especially as it also means a dry boat to boot.</p>
<p>If you have a diesel engine, then a diesel heater is the most practical way to go and you can probably buy a good one second hand. Diesel heaters last.<br />
Wood fired heaters are an option, but you do have to always collect pine cones, drift wood (which is tough on the fire box as the salt eats the steel) or coal. While  collecting can be fun, storage of sacks of firewood is an issue. But it worked for me.<br />
Because propane makes water, as you said, you need to have a flue. In fact what ever heating system you use, you need a chimney to take the water out of the boat. My chimney also could be removed and replaced with a very good bung for sailing across oceans.<br />
Electricity is nice when in a marina, but that is all it is good for.</p>
<p>Keep me posted how you get on.<br />
Fair winds John</p>
<p>To answer your questions about heaters; the best solution is a diesel heater assuming you have a diesel engine and already have diesel onboard.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why does safety take practice? by darce</title>
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		<dc:creator>darce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 21:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We've been looking at heaters, but don't want to spend a whole lot on something we're only going to use for a couple weeks.  But since we can't support an electric heater, the only logical option is propane - and burning propane leads to more condensation.  So yeah, we've got some puzzles to figure out.   Any ideas?

Can you tell me a little about your sailing experience?  I've never really sailed before, and this boat just sort of dropped into Kyle's lap, which is how we hatched the plan for this trip (by which I mean I have very little experience).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve been looking at heaters, but don&#8217;t want to spend a whole lot on something we&#8217;re only going to use for a couple weeks.  But since we can&#8217;t support an electric heater, the only logical option is propane - and burning propane leads to more condensation.  So yeah, we&#8217;ve got some puzzles to figure out.   Any ideas?</p>
<p>Can you tell me a little about your sailing experience?  I&#8217;ve never really sailed before, and this boat just sort of dropped into Kyle&#8217;s lap, which is how we hatched the plan for this trip (by which I mean I have very little experience).</p>
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